{"id":12,"date":"2010-10-18T17:58:58","date_gmt":"2010-10-18T21:58:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/?p=12"},"modified":"2010-11-28T18:28:13","modified_gmt":"2010-11-28T23:28:13","slug":"we-descended-from-canaanites-also-known-as-phoenicians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/?p=12","title":{"rendered":"We descended from Canaanites, also known as Phoenicians"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>A recent article, summarised below, concludes that we descended from Canaanites, also known as Phoenicians.\u00c2\u00a0 The area corresponds roughly to Lebanon, northern Israel and western Syria.<\/p>\n<p>If you would like a comprehensive overview of our ancestors you can get it at<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Canaan\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Canaan<\/a> or at\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/phoenicia.org\/index.shtml\">http:\/\/phoenicia.org\/index.shtml<\/a> which has extensive information including trading and migration patterns as far as Ireland and England.<\/p>\n<p>I found this interesting site\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/phoenicia.org\/index.shtml\">http:\/\/phoenicia.org\/index.shtml<\/a> which has extensive information and maps including about trading and migration patterns as far as Ireland and England.\u00c2\u00a0 It goes some distance to explaining more options for the routing to Hanley.\u00c2\u00a0 Unfortunately it doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t yet narrow those options.<\/p>\n<p>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve discovered that there numerous takes on the histories of the peoples in this region that long ago.\u00c2\u00a0 I gather that they are still finding and sorting out new archaeological and recorded data.\u00c2\u00a0 Part of the problem is that there were small populations and language was only being developed at that time and the approaches were different.\u00c2\u00a0 However, this is the first time that I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve come up with such a mother lode of interesting information.<\/p>\n<p>I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t spent much time on it yet, there are about 1,900 pages of information, so I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t yet know how it treats religion.\u00c2\u00a0 Also, so far, it doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t include Y-DNA analysis.<\/p>\n<p>The region was on major east west and north south trade routes both by land by sea.\u00c2\u00a0 Consequently, the requirements of trade helped shape their major contributions to the world which include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Language\/alphabet which they passed to the Greeks who refined and spread it further.<\/li>\n<li>Trade<\/li>\n<li>Navigation<\/li>\n<li>Math (Pythagoras)<\/li>\n<li>developed war by chariot -\u00c2\u00a0 Yeeehah!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Enjoy<\/p>\n<p>Ian<\/p>\n<p>A summer update from the Russian research team. Russian Journal of Genetic Genealogy: Vol 1, \u00e2\u201e\u20132, 2010 ISSN: 1920-2989\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ru.rjgg.org\">http:\/\/ru.rjgg.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rjgg.molgen.org\/index.php\/RJGG\/article\/download\/67\/83\">http:\/\/rjgg.molgen.org\/index.php\/RJGG\/article\/download\/67\/83<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The pdf paper is short and an interesting read.\u00c2\u00a0 In it they refer to\u00c2\u00a0E1b1b1c1a\u00c2\u00a0as an individual, which makes sense when talking about the first dude with that particular genetic mutation.\u00c2\u00a0 Generally speaking we have been talking about the entire haplogroup including Frank and us.<\/p>\n<p>Haplogroups E1b1b1c1 (M34) and E1b1b1c1a (M84) among Jews. Could Abraham be E1b1b1c1 or E1b1b1c1a?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/community.livejournal.com\/myfamilytree\/71106.html\">http:\/\/community.livejournal.com\/myfamilytree\/71106.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The paper concludes that the guy who was\u00c2\u00a0E1b1b1c1\u00c2\u00a0was too old to be Abraham.\u00c2\u00a0 But while\u00c2\u00a0E1b1b1c1a\u00c2\u00a0(a descendant of E1b1b1c1)\u00c2\u00a0might be Abraham that too is unlikely as the Cohens tended to be the Jewish priests and the %\u00c2\u00a0of E1b1b1c1a\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s\u00c2\u00a0amongst the Cohen\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s is low, around 1%.\u00c2\u00a0 I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll have to take the writers\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 word about the importance of that as I know nothing about Cohens or Jewish priests.\u00c2\u00a0 They suggest that Abraham is most likely to be J1 or J2, which are also common to both Arabs and jews.<\/p>\n<p>The report also concludes that:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153the Jewish and Arabian\u00c2\u00a0E1b1b1c1a\u00c2\u00a0lines are close one to the other, their common ancestor lived 4080\u00c2\u00b11440 years ago, so, most probably, both are descendants of ancient Canaanites.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>There is a comment that Jews invaded a Canaan community and converted a segment of the populace.\u00c2\u00a0 Remember, that this predates the creation of Islam by several thousand years.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting how much new material has surfaced since I last checked the internet a few months ago.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A recent article, summarised below, concludes that we descended from Canaanites, also known as Phoenicians.\u00c2\u00a0 The area corresponds roughly to Lebanon, northern Israel and western Syria. If you would like a comprehensive overview of our ancestors you can get it at http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Canaan or at\u00c2\u00a0http:\/\/phoenicia.org\/index.shtml which has extensive information including trading and migration patterns as far [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,11,10],"tags":[4,58,21,56],"class_list":["post-12","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dna","category-frank-the-man-his-life","category-phoeniciacanaan","tag-1200-bce","tag-dna","tag-e1b1b1c1a-m-84","tag-phoeniciacanaan"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sintheta.org\/mcgene\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}